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Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Abley)
Thu Feb 16 12:44:54 2006

In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0602160022080.4366@pop.ict1.everquick.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
From: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 12:44:27 -0500
To: Edward B.DREGER <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



On 15-Feb-2006, at 19:33, Edward B. DREGER wrote:

> Want to dual-home to SBC and Cox?  Great.  You get IP space from
>
> 	1.0.0/18
>
> which is advertised via AS64511.  Lots of leaf dual-homers do the  
> same,
> yet there is ONE route in the global table for the lot of you.  SBC  
> and
> Cox interconnect and swap packets when someone's local loop goes  
> *poof*.
> Flaps within 1.0.0/18 never hit the outside world.

Personally, if I was going to multi-home, I would far prefer that my  
various transit providers don't cooperate at all, and have sets of  
peers and/or upstream transit providers that are as different as  
possible from each others'. The last thing I need are operational  
procedures which are shared between them.

If all you want is last-mile redundancy, surely you can just attach  
twice to the same ISP and avoid all the routing complications  
completely?

I get the feeling that there's a lot of solutions-designing going on  
in this thread without the benefit of prior problem-stating.


Joe


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