[88707] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: shim6 rides again (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Edward B. DREGER)
Wed Feb 15 15:32:39 2006
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:32:07 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Edward B. DREGER" <eddy+public+spam@noc.everquick.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
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PH> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2006 21:14:03 +0100
PH> From: Per Heldal
PH> ...quite the opposite of what I ment to say. Most nanog'ers work in
PH> engineering. The problem is a lack of ops-people turning these
PH> xOG-groups ito xEG-groups instead.
Ah. That makes much more sense. :-)
PH> PS! I prefer tight integration of operations and engineering. I'd say
PH> it's good for engineering-staff to do ops-work from time to time (eat
PH> their own dog food;). Organisations that practise job-rotation generally
PH> have the better solutions.
Indeed, or at least so I like to think. Tight integration means fewer
kludges that simply translate to more work for someone else.
e.g., I'm currently working on a project that requires a new protocol.
I'm also the one who must write the code, test, and [initially] keep it
up and running once complete. No shifting the burden "10% easier here,
30% tougher there" going on around here. ;-)
Perhaps what more organizations need is management who can properly
bridge the different camps.
Eddy
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