[88122] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat? [ & Re: cyber-redundancy ]
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Fergie)
Fri Jan 20 20:37:00 2006
From: "Fergie" <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 01:35:11 GMT
To: frank@dticonsulting.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
I still believe in Jon Postel's maxim -- "Be conservative in what
you send, and liberal in what you recieve."
And before the wolves jump into the fray, one should underatnd
the context.
- ferg
-- Frank Coluccio <frank@dticonsulting.com> wrote:
>>Trust is a very nebulous concept.<<
And mistrust is a far less nebulous concept, obviously. It seems to me t=
hat you
will dispel just about anything I present in this regard. Do you trust b=
anks that
hold your escrow funds during home purchasing? How does Iron Mountain ga=
in the
trust of its enterprise customers who archive their IP, tapes, sofware a=
nd family
jewels with them? The following is very interesting to me:
>There is a working group involving several carriers, =
>financial institutions and the government to create =
>something for customers with these types of requirements. =
Which standards body are you referring to that has such a working group?=
=
----Sean Donelan <sean@donelan.com>: Sent: Fri Jan 20 19:51:
If CPA's were trusted, why aren't there big six CPA firms anymore? Who
was the CPA for ENRON? If you trusted them to audit ENRON's financial
books, would you also trust them to audit their route information? Why
do you think CPA firms would do a better job doing at auditing ENRON's
routes than they did their financial books?
Trust is a very nebulous concept.
Every industry opposes more rules and regulations. Do we really want
ordering an ordinary telephone line to require as much paperwork as
getting a mortgage? On the other hand, as you know, when you actually
read all that paperwork, tariffs, standards, technical practices, etc;
carriers don't promise very much. And they usually deliver on that
promise.
Banks refuse to promise they will never be robbed, and carriers
refuse to promise their circuits will never go down.
There is a working group involving several carriers, financial
institutions and the government to create something for customers
with these types of requirements. The challenge is for everyone
is deciding what it actually means, how to implement it, and what
will it cost. And even after all that, circuits will still go
down.
Frank A. Coluccio
DTI Consulting Inc.
212-587-8150 Office
347-526-6788 Mobile
--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
Engineering Architecture for the Internet
fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net
ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
