[88054] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: IP Addresses from a different region
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Ulevitch)
Thu Jan 19 11:44:27 2006
In-Reply-To: <200601191608.k0JG8hkc018236@turing-police.cc.vt.edu>
Cc: Sam Stickland <sam_ml@spacething.org>, nanog@nanog.org
From: David Ulevitch <davidu@everydns.net>
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 08:41:29 -0800
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Jan 19, 2006, at 8:08 AM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 15:11:18 GMT, Sam Stickland said:
>> I can't of course start naming our clients. I could harp on about
>> how they
>> are a multinational, running legimate operations and blah blah
>> blah.. But
>> you'd only have my word for it. So you'll just have to take my
>> word for
>> the fact that we run an operational that comes down hard on
>> nefrarious
>> activities. Sorry.
>
> Well, Sam's organization, if it was black hat, *could* just have
> hijacked
> the space and announced it anyhow. The fact he asked on NANOG
> means either:
>
> 1) He's on the level.
> 2) He's a really stupid black hat.
> 3) He's a really clever black hat applying misdirection of some
> sort. ;)
[ The fact that my message was offlist aside... ]
I don't doubt Sam at all but even the best of organizations or the
best of tech clue and the worst of sales clue can bring nefarious
users into an otherwise whitehat colo/isp/whatever.
Also, from a research standpoint I'm curious as to why this
organization thinks they need ARIN IP space to do what they do. Most
of us know that's probably not true. I keep pretty close tabs on
ongoing research in network location based services, dns mapping,
online advertising, etc. I just smell BS or something really new and
unique and am curious in either case.
There is some good research going on in this space though (location
based determinations):
http://www.coralcdn.org/oasis/ (presenting at CodeCon)
http://www.cs.cornell.edu/People/egs/Meridian/
just to name a couple...
-davidu
