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Re: Problems connectivity GE on Foundry BigIron to Cisco 2950T

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sam Stickland)
Sun Jan 15 19:51:17 2006

Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 00:50:33 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
From: Sam Stickland <sam_ml@spacething.org>
To: nanog@nanog.org
Cc: Mark Smith <random@72616e646f6d20323030342d30342d31360a.nosense.org>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.64.0601160018010.2524@p4-2800>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Wikipedia reveals all. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crossover_cable

Turns out that for 1000Base-T crossovers pairs 2 and 3, and 1 and 4 have 
to swapped. Standard TIA-568B to TIA-568A over swaps 2 and 3.

Auto MDI/MDI-X is optional in the 1000Base-T spec so the way forward is to 
try a straight cable and if that fails I'll have to make up a 1000Base-T 
crossover cable.

Thanks for all the help people,

S


On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Sam Stickland wrote:

>
> On Mon, 16 Jan 2006, Mark Smith wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 23:50:07 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
>> Sam Stickland <sam_ml@spacething.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>>> 
>>> The cabling arrangement is:
>>> 
>>> Foundry -- Straight -- Patch -- Underfloor -- Patch -- Crossover -- Cisco
>>>   GBIC       Cable      Panel     Straight     Panel      Cable
>>> 
>>> If I replace the final crossover cable with a straight,
>> Just do that ^^^ and give it a try.
>
> Will do.
>
> If that fails I might have to dig out a non-passive 1000SX to 1000-BaseT 
> media convertor that's on one of the other sites and give that a try.
>
> Btw, several people have suggested "speed nonegotiate" on the cisco speed. 
> This command is only supported on GBIC slots on cisco, not on fixed 
> 1000Base-T interfaces (at least not a Sup720/WS-X6748-GE-TX).
>
> I also found this reference about the clock signals in use on 1000Base-T:
>
> "Synchronous transmission
> 1000BASE-T is based on synchronous transmission to facilitate the cancelation 
> of Echo/NEXT/FEXT interferences at the receivers. To achieve synchronous 
> transmission between the two PHYs at the ends of a link, a master-slave 
> clocking relationship is established by the PHYs. The master-slave 
> relationship between two stations sharing a link segment is established 
> during auto-negotiation. The master PHY uses an external clock to determine 
> the timing of transmitter and receiver operations. This master clock is also 
> provided to the other stations in the network. The slave PHY recovers the 
> clock from the received signal and uses it to determine the timing of 
> transmitter operations. In a typical network, the PHY at the repeater will 
> become the master and the PHY at the data terminal equipment (DTE) will 
> become the slave."
>
> So it would appear that auto-negotiation is a requirement in 1000Base-T.
>
> Sam
>

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