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Re: Cisco, haven't we learned anything? (technician reset)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Hennigan)
Thu Jan 12 20:41:32 2006

Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 17:40:36 -0800
From: Jay Hennigan <jay@west.net>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0601121656350.11476@sokol.elan.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


william(at)elan.net wrote:

> 
>> Actually, and fairly recently, this IS a default password in IOS.  New 
>> out-of-box 28xx series routers have cisco/cisco installed as the 
>> default password with privilege 15 (full access).  This is a recent 
>> development.
> 
> 
> This is hardly only cisco's problem. Most office routers I've dealt with
> also come with default username/password and on occasions when I dealt
> with  existing installation those passwords have rarely been changed.

True.  However I much prefer the old way that Cisco did it.  No default 
passwords on the box at all.  But, no remote administration at all until 
a password was set on the console.

Now, there is a default cisco/cisco.  Newbie admin creates a new 
user/pass, tests thinks it's secure, fails to remove the default, game 
over.

> What should really be done (BCP for manufactures ???) is have default
> password based on unit's serial number. Since most routers provide this
> information (i.e. its preset on the chip's eprom) I don't understand
> why its so hard to just create simple function as part of software to 
> use this data if the password is not otherwise set.

The old-school Cisco way works for me.  Default is no password if you 
have physical access, but no remote access.

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