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Re: Ascend GRF400

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Provo - Network Architect)
Thu Apr 24 06:25:00 1997

Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 06:12:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: Joe Provo - Network Architect <jprovo@ma.ultranet.com>
To: neil@domino.org
Cc: nanog@merit.edu


[snip]
Warning.  only the end of this is truly relevant to nanog, IMO.  Clobber
the message now if you want to avoid a mini-rant about ascend.


I'm a right tool for the right job person myself, so I'm glad that
people have found ascends to work for them, but I have to interrupt the
love-in long enough to point out
	- the grf is not all of ascend.  maybe they finally got things
	 right?
	- ascend CPE equipment is constantly shipped with incorrect
	 cables 
	- ascend CPE equipment has poor design on the human-interface
	 and the electrics.  That is, people will, can and do plug the
	 wrong cable into the wrong port which in turn fries the unit.
	 They have a very smooth RMA process, which says something about
	 how often it has to be used.
	- software-of-the-week releases that are rife with regression
	 faults
	- nigh-abandonment of product with no warning:  see software
	 version 5.x for the p400 series?  see it coming anytime soon?

All that said, we have had good luck with scend on the higher-end gear,
MAXes et al, so maybe the GRF is done right.  But that's a co$tly
"maybe".

Lastly, the bit that's really relevant, how to the GRF-users automate
things in their networks?  I'll cast a hairy eyeball on claims that
"cisco-free" is a good thing until I see other products that give high
flexibility on route tuning and a method to programatically alter
configs.  Asking for vendors to have a common programatic interface is a
bit much to ask, so I'll settle for sane, regexp-parsable files...

Disclaim, disclam; affiliation, not representation; etc etc.

Joe

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