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Re: WMF patch

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Thu Jan 5 04:35:37 2006

Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 09:35:10 +0000
From: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
Cc: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu,
	Fred Heutte <aoxomoxoa@sunlightdata.com>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <20060105085448.GA27142@nic.fr>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Indeed. It's the security equivalent of "the market can stay irrational
longer than you can stay solvent" - perhaps we could reformulate that as
"the users can remain clueless longer than your business can survive the
DDOS"

On 1/5/06, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:58:16PM -0500,
> Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote
> a message of 46 lines which said:
>
> > How many times do you propose we FTDT before we get fed up and ask
> > upper management to authorize a migration to some other software
> > with a better record? And how many more FTDT's do we need to
> > tolerate while we wait for upper management to authorize a
> > migration?
>
> There is no limit to what human beings can stand before becoming
> reasonable. That is human nature and the engineers' rationality is no
> match for it.
>
> Think about religion, for instance. A lot of people still believe in a
> supernatural being despite a very bad track record (much worse than
> MS-Windows').
>
>

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Indeed. It's the security equivalent of &quot;the market can stay irrationa=
l
longer than you can stay solvent&quot; - perhaps we could reformulate that
as &quot;the users can remain clueless longer than your business can surviv=
e
the DDOS&quot;<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1/5/06, <b class=
=3D"gmail_sendername">Stephane Bortzmeyer</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bortzme=
yer@nic.fr">bortzmeyer@nic.fr</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0=
pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br>On Wed, Jan 04, 2006 at 05:58:16PM -0500,<br> <a href=3D"mailto:Valdis.=
Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Valdis.=
Kletnieks@vt.edu">Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu</a>&gt; wrote<br> a message of 46=
 lines which said:
<br><br>&gt; How many times do you propose we FTDT before we get fed up and=
 ask<br>&gt; upper management to authorize a migration to some other softwa=
re<br>&gt; with a better record? And how many more FTDT's do we need to
<br>&gt; tolerate while we wait for upper management to authorize a<br>&gt;=
 migration?<br><br>There is no limit to what human beings can stand before =
becoming<br>reasonable. That is human nature and the engineers' rationality=
 is no
<br>match for it.<br><br>Think about religion, for instance. A lot of peopl=
e still believe in a<br>supernatural being despite a very bad track record =
(much worse than<br>MS-Windows').<br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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