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Re: Compromised machines liable for damage?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hannigan, Martin)
Mon Dec 26 00:25:17 2005

Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 00:21:39 -0500
From: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
To: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: "Dave Pooser" <dave.nanog@alfordmedia.com>,
	"NANOG" <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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Yes, I agree. As usual, I too am 'IANAL'.

Marty



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From: 	Steven M. Bellovin [mailto:smb@cs.columbia.edu]
Sent:	Sun Dec 25 23:52:27 2005
To:	Hannigan, Martin
Cc:	Dave Pooser; NANOG
Subject:	Re: Compromised machines liable for damage?=20

In message =
<80632326218FE74899BDD48BB836421A033001@Dul1wnexmb04.vcorp.ad.vrsn.c
om>, "Hannigan, Martin" writes:

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>Dave, RIAA wins almost 100pct vs p2p'ers ir sues. Its an interesting =
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>dichotomy.
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"Wins" is too strong a word, since I don't think any have gone to=20
court -- see =
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Music-Download-Suit.html
as my source.

Besides, it's a very different situation.  For my take on liability=20
issues -- note that I'm not a lawyer, and note that this is from 1994=20
-- see http://www.wilyhacker.com/1e/chap12.pdf

		--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb




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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Yes, I agree. As usual, I too am 'IANAL'.<BR>
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Marty<BR>
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Cc:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Dave Pooser; NANOG<BR>
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&gt;Dave, RIAA wins almost 100pct vs p2p'ers ir sues. Its an interesting =
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&gt;dichotomy.<BR>
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&quot;Wins&quot; is too strong a word, since I don't think any have gone =
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court -- see <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Music-Download-Suit.html"=
>http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/arts/AP-Music-Download-Suit.html</A><BR>=

as my source.<BR>
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Besides, it's a very different situation.&nbsp; For my take on =
liability<BR>
issues -- note that I'm not a lawyer, and note that this is from =
1994<BR>
-- see <A =
HREF=3D"http://www.wilyhacker.com/1e/chap12.pdf">http://www.wilyhacker.co=
m/1e/chap12.pdf</A><BR>
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