[87553] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Destructive botnet originating from Japan
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Rubens Kuhl Jr.)
Sun Dec 25 17:01:59 2005
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:01:09 -0200
From: "Rubens Kuhl Jr." <rubensk@gmail.com>
To: "Hannigan, Martin" <hannigan@verisign.com>
Cc: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>, NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: <80632326218FE74899BDD48BB836421A032FEA@Dul1wnexmb04.vcorp.ad.vrsn.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
The first rule of nsp-sec is, you do not talk about nsp-sec
The second rule of nsp-sec is, you DO NOT talk about nsp-sec
Rubens
On 12/25/05, Hannigan, Martin <hannigan@verisign.com> wrote:
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> What's nsp-sec?
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:ras@e-gerbil.net]
> Sent: Sun Dec 25 04:25:15 2005
> To: Gadi Evron
> Cc: Rob Thomas; NANOG
> Subject: Re: Destructive botnet originating from Japan
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> On Sun, Dec 25, 2005 at 02:06:38AM -0600, Gadi Evron wrote:
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> > It is difficult to hear something important that one invested much in =
is
> > doing harm, but that is the only conclusion I and others can come up w=
ith
> > after years of study, and NSP-SEC, as amazing as it has been, has been=
of
> > a negative impact other than to cause a community to form and act
> > together. Which is amazing by itself and which is why I believe it
> > can do so much more.. even if it is relatively young it has proven
> > itself time and time again... I am straying from the subject here.
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> Could have told you that a long time ago. NSP-SEC became useless the day
> it became so bogged down in its own self-aggrandizing paranoia that no o=
ne
> could possibly be bothered to actually tell anyone outside of the secret
> handshake club about security issues they've spotted.
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> On the other hand, if you ARE going to sit around pissing and moaning
> about botnets you are too "sekure" to tell anyone else about, thus
> assuring they never get fixed, at least it's nice to do it in one secret
> place so I don't have to hear it. :)
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> Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net> http://www.e-gerbil.net/r=
as
> GPG Key ID: 0xF8B12CBC (7535 7F59 8204 ED1F CC1C 53AF 4C41 5ECA F8B1 2CB=
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