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Re: The Qos PipeDream [Was: RE: Two Tiered Internet]

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Christopher L. Morrow)
Thu Dec 15 23:07:43 2005

Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 04:02:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>
In-reply-to: <17314.15296.837608.839315@roam.psg.com>
To: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Cc: John Kristoff <jtk@northwestern.edu>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Randy Bush wrote:

> >>> ah-ha! and here I thought they wanted buzzword compliance :) From what
> >>> sales/customers say it seems like they have a perception that 'qos will
> >>> let me use MORE of my too-small pipe' (or not spend as fast on more pipe)
> >>> more than anything else.
> >> and i wonder who is selling that need?
> > the wierd thing is you'd think the telco would just say: "Well gosh, sorry
> > we can't help you squeeze 10lbs of poo into your 5lb bag, wanna by a
> > shiney new 10lb bag?"  or maybe you meant equipment vendors? :)
>
> bingo!  buy more, and more complex, hardware and you can charge
> more.  what they forget to mention is that income will get blown
> in opex and capex (with the vendors getting the latter).

charge more you say?? I need to talk to our marketting dept!!! :)

The world of marketting and sales is so incestuously intertwined among
consumers and consumee's ... it's an amazing thing.

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