[87377] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Two Tiered Internet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexander Harrowell)
Thu Dec 15 12:31:31 2005
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:30:08 +0000
From: Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell@gmail.com>
To: Fergie <fergdawg@netzero.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20051215.092432.14555.148813@webmail18.lax.untd.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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And not by offering you anything you might want to buy, either, but by
setting up wanky little tollbooths.
On 12/15/05, Fergie <fergdawg@netzero.net> wrote:
>
> Bingo.
>
> What they are really saying is:
>
> "We're _telling_ you that you need it because we need new
> ways to generate additional revenue."
>
> ;-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> - ferg
>
>
> -- Alexander Harrowell <a.harrowell@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The whole QoS/2 tier Internet thing I find deeply, deeply
> suspicious...here in the mobile space, everyone is getting
> obsessed by IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) and explaining to
> each other that they need it so they can offer "Better QoS,
> like the subscribers want". What they really mean, I suspect,
> is killing third party applications that compete with their
> own. IMS=3DI Mash Skype. And, I suspect, "QoS" for SBC
> customer broadband will mean "the speed we advertise so
> long as you are paying us for VoIP/video/whatever, shite
> if you aren't".
>
> [snip]
>
> --
> "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
> Engineering Architecture for the Internet
> fergdawg@netzero.net or fergdawg@sbcglobal.net
> ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
>
>
>
>
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And not by offering you anything you might want to buy, either, but by sett=
ing up wanky little tollbooths.<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
12/15/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Fergie</b> <<a href=3D"mailto:fe=
rgdawg@netzero.net">
fergdawg@netzero.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote"=
style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.=
8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">Bingo.<br><br>What they are really saying is:<br><=
br>
"We're _telling_ you that you need it because we need new<br>ways to g=
enerate additional revenue."<br><br>;-)<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>- ferg<b=
r><br><br>-- Alexander Harrowell <<a href=3D"mailto:a.harrowell@gmail.co=
m">
a.harrowell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>The whole QoS/2 tier Internet t=
hing I find deeply, deeply<br>suspicious...here in the mobile space, everyo=
ne is getting<br>obsessed by IMS (IP Multimedia Subsystem) and explaining t=
o
<br>each other that they need it so they can offer "Better QoS,<br>lik=
e the subscribers want". What they really mean, I suspect,<br>is killi=
ng third party applications that compete with their<br>own. IMS=3DI Mash Sk=
ype. And, I suspect, "QoS" for SBC
<br>customer broadband will mean "the speed we advertise so<br>long as=
you are paying us for VoIP/video/whatever, shite<br>if you aren't".<b=
r><br>[snip]<br><br>--<br>"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson<br> Engi=
neering Architecture for the Internet
<br> <a href=3D"mailto:fergdawg@netzero.net">fergdawg@netzero.net</a> or <a=
href=3D"mailto:fergdawg@sbcglobal.net">fergdawg@sbcglobal.net</a><br> ferg=
's tech blog: <a href=3D"http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/">http://fergdawg.blo=
gspot.com/
</a><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>
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