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RE: SMTP store and forward requires DSN for integrity (was Re:Clueless

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Todd Vierling)
Fri Dec 9 12:18:39 2005

Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 12:18:09 -0500 (EST)
From: Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org>
To: Douglas Otis <dotis@mail-abuse.org>
Cc: "Geo." <geoincidents@nls.net>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <1134147790.581.104.camel@bash.adsl-64-142-13-68>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Fri, 9 Dec 2005, Douglas Otis wrote:

> There is a solution you can implement now that gets rid of these tens of
> thousands of virus and abuse laden DSNs you see every day before the
> data phase.

And it is *my* responsibility to reject UBE that shouldn't have been
generated in the first place, because...?

Blocking the UBE is not the solution; it is a bandage over a bleeding
artery.  The solution is not to generate the UBE in the first place.

You'll note that, again, I am very explicitly not equating these to DSNs.
As I said before in N forms, I don't care what color of shirt the virus
"warning" wears; if sent to a forged address, it is UBE and deserved to be
treated as such.

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-- Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org> <tv@pobox.com> <todd@vierling.name>

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