[8718] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: What's going on?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Barry Shein)
Sun Apr 20 19:56:33 1997
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 19:42:54 -0400
From: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
To: Bill Becker <bbecker@iconn.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSD/.3.91.970420135333.29450C-100000@crispy.iconn.net>
On April 20, 1997 at 15:17 bbecker@iconn.net (Bill Becker) wrote:
> > What has to be done is to get these third-party relay spammers
> > arrested, sued, and their heads hung out on poles for all to see and
> > give pause to others who might think of doing this.
>
> Judges (in the US) would not do that because nobody dies or goes broke
> as a result of spam. It's merely annoying. But even if US judges were
Nobody dies or goes broke if I play a stereo at full volume outside
your bedroom window...
Besides, I think we are getting closer and closer to people going
broke over spam as it chases potential customers away. It's kind of
like having to let people who fart a lot or won't bathe eat in your
restaurant (or maybe a closer analogy is people who insist on throwing
food around the room, I mean, it's not deadly, merely annoying...)
> willing to nail spammers, the spammers would simply move out of their
> jurisdictions. With strict anti-spam laws in place, what would you do if
> you were being spammed from a site in Liberia? Same thing you do now.
I'd lobby to have Liberia's net link cut off if they can't deal with
it. Networking is a two-way street.
> > To me, saying this can be solved technically is like saying that a
> > rash of window breakings in your neighborhood can be solved
> > "technically" -- everyone merely has to nail up plywood over all their
> > windows and voila', end of problem.
>
> Well, your options are limited. You can do technical things because that's
> within your power. But the only laws that will affect spam, are the
> laws of economics.
Well, thank you for your useless legal advice but I assure you my
attorneys feel otherwise and I'm currently well into pursuing having
two of them arrested (some do make serious mistakes.)
You'd've made a good serf, Becker.
> Bill
>
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