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Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Edward Lewis)
Wed Dec 7 10:55:13 2005

In-Reply-To: <438EDA09.6030802@nrg4u.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:54:59 -0500
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Edward Lewis <Ed.Lewis@neustar.biz>
Cc: ed.lewis@neustar.biz
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


After reading this thread well after it has ended...why does it seem 
that a lot of folks equate "trust" with "paying money?"

Trust isn't about who can pay what but maintaining a system that 
conveys trust does *cost* money.

The RIRs are not-for-profit themselves.  That doesn't mean 
service-for-no-fee.  I don't see that an RIR has any obligation to 
speak on behalf of (in this case, issue certificates for) any other 
organization that holds IP space and has not established any 
arrangement with the RIR.  On the other hand, any such organization 
cannot expect an RIR to do something for them for free.

If the ISP industry wants there to be certificates for the so-called 
swamp space (badly enough), what would stop them from subsidizing the 
the work?

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