[87066] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andre Oppermann)
Thu Dec 1 06:10:37 2005
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 12:10:01 +0100
From: Andre Oppermann <nanog-list@nrg4u.com>
To: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <OFDA2C358F.393BB662-ON802570CA.003B75A9-802570CA.003BC971@btradianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
>>>It's hard to imagine an organization who can afford to run
>>>a network using BGP to announce a class C block and not
>>>be able to afford $1250 per year.
>>
>>The Internet != for-profit-only corporate netspace.
>
> In that case, the organization is not an ISP which
> means that they are not growing which means that they
> don't need as much of ARIN's services, therefore they
> can swap their class C block for an ARIN /24 and only
> pay $100 as an end user. Presumably ARIN could be convinced
> to waive the one-time initial allocation fee in this case
> since the initial allocation happened years ago.
>
> Then, having joined the club that 99% of us belong to,
> they won't have any problems with using newer services
> like BGP cert signing.
The problem is *because* they are not ISP and don't have a clue
they'll use a lot of ARINs services. "Why doesn't this work,
how do I do that..." RIPE started requiring the x-ncc-regid
thing in email partly because of the newbie and clueless crowd.
--
Andre
