[86995] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (william(at)elan.net)
Mon Nov 28 06:32:27 2005
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:31:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "william(at)elan.net" <william@elan.net>
To: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <OF1A0BFEE7.89518FA3-ON802570C7.00367BC1-802570C7.0036FC41@btradianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Of course we could all quickly move to IPv6 and then IPv4 legacy allocations
and related legal challenges wouldn't be an issue any more ... :)
On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
>>> Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a free copy
>>> of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to use any version of
>>> Windows for free forever?
>>
>> I don't think this analogy exactly fits. I'm pretty sure that the legacy
>> space holders think of this as: a Microsoft salesman had given them
>> a free copy of Windows back in 1990, and had returned many years later
>> to say that MS had established a registry for all new recipients of
>> Windows that charged a registration fee, and MS wanted them to start
>> paying the fee for the free copy as well.
>
> Regardless of what the legacy space users think, if the
> RIRs decided to sign certificates for use in BGP route
> for a small fee to recover costs, and if those legacy
> space holders wish to make use of this new service (like
> a new version of Windows) then they have to sign up and
> pay the fees. The fact that they once received a free
> service does not entitle them to receive *ALL* services
> for free *FOREVER*.
>
> Perhaps this discussion should move to http://www.groklaw.net
> where people who understand how law works could comment on it.
>
> In any case, the bottom line is that the existence of a few
> legacy space users should not prevent us from leveraging the
> RIRs to sign certificates, run route registries, run the
> in-addr.arpa domain etc.
>
> --Michael Dillon
