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Wifi Security

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ross Hosman)
Mon Nov 21 09:41:22 2005

Date: Mon, 21 Nov 2005 08:42:42 -0600
From: "Ross Hosman" <rhosman@corp.hometel.com>
To: <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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So my question is pretty simple. You have all these major companies such
as google/earthlink/sprint/etc. building wifi networks. Lets say I want
to collect peoples information so I setup an AP with the same ssid as
google's ap so people connect to it and I log all of their traffic. Most
people won't check beyond the ssid to look at the mac address but even
that could be spoofed. Is there anyway to verify a certain ap beyond
mac/ssid, will there be in the future? How do these companies plan to
mitigate this threat or are they just going to hope consumers are smart
enough to figure it out?

Ross Hosman
Network/Systems Administrator
E: rhosman@corp.hometel.com
P: 618-644-2111 x 238
C: 314-898-3381
Y!: rosshosman


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FACE=3D"Arial">t check beyond the ssid to look at the mac address but =
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<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"></SPAN><A NAME=3D""><SPAN =
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Hosman</FONT></SPAN></A></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 =
FACE=3D"Arial">Network/Systems Administrator<BR>
E: rhosman@corp.hometel.com</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">P: =
618-644-2111 x 238</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=3DLEFT><SPAN LANG=3D"en-us"><FONT SIZE=3D2 FACE=3D"Arial">C: =
314-898-3381</FONT></SPAN></P>

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