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Re: What do we mean when we say "competition?" (was: Re: [Latest

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mikael Abrahamsson)
Wed Nov 16 02:44:25 2005

Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 08:43:55 +0100 (CET)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <OFD844645B.207192B6-ON802570BA.00561333-802570BA.0056A83A@btradianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Tue, 15 Nov 2005 Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:

> This is more or less what BT has done in the UK by splitting
> off all the field engineering into a separate company called
> Openreach.

Telia in Sweden did that (Skanova), now that they're privatised (partly) 
they're merging that unit back again, and it never was a really separate 
unit.

Having a separate cable company with airtight divide to the service 
company is a must. Economy of scale says only one cable is needed to the 
consumer, but from there it seems there is enough different ways of doing 
things that it warrants a plenthora of companies to supply service, I 
would say at least three.

Price of bw in Sweden which generally has at least 3 different ISPs 
colocating with telia in the larger phone stations, is at $25 per month 
plus tax for ADSL 8/1, personally I think that if we had a separate cable 
company this would actually be slightly lower, if not, we would at least 
have equal access to the premesis (currently something like 30% of the 
phonestations are claimed to be "out of space" by Telia, but they can 
still build-out new services themselves as they prioritize their own 
equipment).

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

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