[86612] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Fri Nov 11 13:44:51 2005
From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:42:32 -1000
To: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
> None that I have spoken with.
>> that's what a number of i* members have publicly stated is their
>> opinion of talking to us operators.
i imagine you speak with the one i was quoting rather often,
though you were not there when it was said. i was. ask
others who were there, pitsburgh ietf, a meeting between
ipv6 chairs, iesg members, rirs, and a few ops. a current
member of the iab specifically said, and i quote again,
since you seem to have missed the rest of my paragraph,
operators won't accept the h ratio because they don't
know what a logarithm is.
while the ietf mouths a lot of words about wanting to hear
from, and get participation from, operators, the actual
experience is pretty brutal.
http://rip.psg.com/~randy/051000.ccr-ivtf.html is from the
current issue of acm sigcomm's ccr, where aaron falk also
has a piece. i play curmudgeon and he pollyanna.
randy
