[86604] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (David Meyer)
Fri Nov 11 11:16:13 2005
Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:14:05 -0800
From: David Meyer <dmm@1-4-5.net>
To: Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
Cc: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>,
"Robert E.Seastrom" <rs@seastrom.com>, bmanning@vacation.karoshi.com,
nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <1CD7FEA8-900F-4B42-9D00-A9184D6CF13B@cisco.com>
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On Fri, Nov 11, 2005 at 07:39:09AM -0800, Fred Baker wrote:
>=20
> None that I have spoken with. What I hear continually is that people =20
> would like operational viewpoints on what they're doing and are =20
> concerned at the fact that operators don't involve themselves in IETF =20
> discussions.
Agreed, but it is pretty clear that serious
communication/image/respect/etc challenges remain. That
is why the current IAB took a step, albeit a small step,
towards trying to change that by opening up the
communication channels a bit. As I seem to become fond of
saying, "its a first step, but you have to start
somewhere". =20
I'm hoping (and pushing) that we keep moving in this
direction. As always, we can all educate each other a
bit, and some of that happened at the NANOG BOF. However,
much more is needed. To that end, I've applied for a slot
at APRICOT for the IAB so we can keep what momentum we
gained from the NANOG BOF going. =20
Finally, if folks have suggestions as to how to make these=20
(communication) channels more useful, work better, etc
(including suggestions for issues you'd like to talk to
the IAB about or hear the IAB talk about), please let me
know. =20
Dave
n Nov 11, 2005, at 6:03 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>that's what a number of i* members have publicly stated is their
>opinion of talking to us operators.
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