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Re: Peering VLANs and MAC addresses

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Steven Bakker)
Wed Nov 9 20:42:40 2005

From: Steven Bakker <steven.bakker@ams-ix.net>
To: Mike Hughes <mike@smashing.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0511092351290.7256-100000@plate.smashing.net>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:42:08 +0100
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Thu, 2005-11-10 at 00:01 +0000, Mike Hughes wrote:

> * How do you differentiate between a switch/router and a router?

Ooh, that's easy: just look at the crap they spew towards the peering
fabric. :-)

> A lot of people are deploying C76xx as peering routers ...

<rant>
... which should be prohibited by law. Actually, C76xx should be
prohibited by law.
</rant>

> ... At the same time it permits switch/routers, and various
> LAN/Ethernet extension services, as long as they are sensibly managed
> and configured.

Right. It does give complications wrt. trouble-shooting connectivity
though. Switch port up but no traffic (L2 black-holing), a single L2
provider with a loop or misconfiguration causing port security
violations on all of their customers' ports, communication channels when
those problems come up, etc. Having said that, so far it's still pretty
manageable.

-- Steven


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