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Re: cogent+ Level(3) are ok now

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (John Curran)
Tue Nov 1 10:05:03 2005

In-Reply-To: <7A5F480A-C2A3-4865-9269-34AA3A63CC9C@ianai.net>
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 10:04:01 -0500
To: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
From: John Curran <jcurran@mail.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
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At 9:40 AM -0500 11/1/05, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
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>I think everyone agrees that unbalanced ratios can create a situation where one side pays more than the other.  However, assuming something can be used to keep the costs equal (e.g. cold-potato?),

Cold-potato only addresses the long-haul; there's still cost on the receiving network
even if its handed off at the closest interconnect to the final destination(s).

> I do not see how one network can tell another: "You can't send me what my customers are requesting of you."

Depeering seems to say exactly that, no?

>If your business model is to provide flat-rate access, it is not _my_ responsibility to ensure your customers do not use more access than your flat-rate can compensate you to deliver.

Agreed...  I'm not defending the business model, only pointing out that some folks may find it easier to bill their "peers" than customers.

/John

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