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Re: Customer view vs. operator view was:( h-root-servers.net)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Sabri Berisha)
Mon Oct 24 10:34:58 2005

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 16:34:27 +0200
From: Sabri Berisha <sabri@cluecentral.net>
To: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <OF50A56103.A22386E2-ON802570A4.004CB049-802570A4.004D8105@btradianz.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Mon, Oct 24, 2005 at 03:06:35PM +0100, Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:

Dear Michael,

> This is a good example of a useless argument caused when one
> person is speaking from a customer viewpoint and one customer
> is speaking from an operator viewpoint.

Last time I checked, the O in [EU|NA|AFRI]NOG stands for 'operator'.
Niels made a perfectly valid point by saying that it is impossible for
an end-user to be connected to the AMS-IX and he was flamed for it. If
Peter Dambier has no clue about end-hosts vs intermediate systems, let
alone how to parse a traceroute with his grey mass, he needs to be educated.
Just as I needed many years ago.

Anyway, this is going way off-topic so this will be my last post in this
subthread. Feel free to reply off-list.

-- 
Sabri

please do not throw salami pizza away

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