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Re: And Now for Something Completely Different (was Re: IPv6 news)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Sun Oct 16 16:21:29 2005

To: Joe Abley <jabley@isc.org>
Cc: David Conrad <drc@virtualized.org>, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>,
	Paul Vixie <vixie@vix.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:55:38 EDT."
             <4C68A7C4-1CBE-4C73-B859-7D8B50B0C65C@isc.org> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:20:51 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:55:38 EDT, Joe Abley said:

> Thought experiment: how many different software vendors need to  
> change their shipping IPv6 code in order for some new feature like  
> shim6 to be 80% deployed in the server and client communities of hosts?
> 
> I'm thinking it's probably less than 5, but I'd be interested to hear  
> opinions to the contrary.

Client end, if Microsoft, MacOS X, and the various Linuxoids shipped, you'd have
pretty good coverage.  Maybe Solaris 11 if they're still relevant by then.  A
few vendor Unixoids (AIX, Irix, etc), and proprietary systems (z/OS), but those
vendors will either read the writing on the wall or fade away...

Router end, probably same number - Cisco, Juniper, Linksys and a few other
SOHO-class vendors, plus a few I've overlooked.

The number is certainly more than 5, very likely close to 1 dozen, unlikely to
be more than 2 dozen.

Of course, even if everybody shipped a *working* *interoperable* product today
(quit giggling - we're being hypothetical here), you'd still have a 3-5 year
timeframe before all the stuff sold yesterday and years previous got upgraded
or replaced.

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