[85530] in North American Network Operators' Group
[Opinion] Re: IPv6 news
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James R. Cutler)
Thu Oct 13 12:55:06 2005
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:54:30 -0400
To: nanog@merit.edu
From: "James R. Cutler" <james.cutler@consultant.com>
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It is short-sighted to insist that currently separate IP networks
will never interoperate directly as part of the "BIG I" Internet.
Given the flux in corporate structures, functions, and ownership,
anyone with at least an ounce of forward vision will design,
construct and operate every network using globally unique IP
addressing. This makes the boundary condition changes less traumatic,
reduces renumbering expenses, and frees the network operators
(NANOG-on-topic!) to manage their ever changing network in an
efficient and cost-effective manner.
IPv6 is an obvious source of sufficient IP addresses to meet needs
for the next decade or two. If there are certain problems with IPv6
allocations now, please offer constructive suggestions regarding
corrections and improvements. NANOG may be a good forum for eventual
input to ARIN, et alia.
Regards.
Cutler
>From: Crist Clark <crist.clark@globalstar.com>
>Subject: Re: IPv6 news
>To: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com
><snip/>
>Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
><snip/>
>>IP addresses were established as part of the development
>>of a networking protocol called the Internet Protocol,
>>or IP for short. This protocol was designed to allow
>>many independent networks to interconnect or internetwork
>>and exchange traffic. In order for such internetworks
>>to work they need to be allocated unique IP addresses.
>>The prerequisite for receiving globally unique IP
>>addresses is that you have to be using IP technology
>>and have a need to internetwork with other networks.
>>There are several such IP internetworks that are
>>entirely separate from the public (big I) Internet.
>>That's where the other addresses are used and their
>>usage is growing at about the same rate as Internet
>>usage is growing.
>
>While I do not necessarily disagree with this point of view (as I work
>for a company who uses allocated space in such a manner), others may
>argue that addresses that are assigned through the Internet Assigned
>Numbers Authority (that's Internet with the "I") are meant for Internet,
>with an "I," use. As it says at the top of their web page, "Dedicated
>to preserving the central coordinating functions of the global Internet
>for the public good." Note, "global Internet."
>
>ObOnSubject: Of course, getting PI space for non-global Internet use
>is one of the big problems with current IPv6 allocation policy that
>make it difficult to start building private IPv6 networks now.
>--
>Crist J. Clark crist.clark@globalstar.com
>Globalstar Communications (408) 933-4387
-
James R. Cutler
james.cutler@consultant.com
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It is short-sighted to insist that currently separate IP networks will
never interoperate directly as part of the "BIG I"
Internet. <br><br>
Given the flux in corporate structures, functions, and ownership, anyone
with at least an ounce of forward vision will design, construct and
operate every network using globally unique IP addressing. This makes the
boundary condition changes less traumatic, reduces renumbering expenses,
and frees the network operators (NANOG-on-topic!) to manage their ever
changing network in an efficient and cost-effective manner.
<br><br>
IPv6 is an obvious source of sufficient IP addresses to meet needs for
the next decade or two. If there are certain problems with IPv6
allocations now, please offer constructive suggestions regarding
corrections and improvements. NANOG may be a good forum for
eventual input to ARIN, et alia.<br><br>
Regards.<br><br>
<x-tab> </x-tab>Cutler<br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">From: Crist Clark
<crist.clark@globalstar.com><br>
Subject: Re: IPv6 news<br>
To: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com<br>
<snip/><br>
Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:<br>
<snip/><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">IP addresses were established as
part of the development<br>
of a networking protocol called the Internet Protocol,<br>
or IP for short. This protocol was designed to allow<br>
many independent networks to interconnect or internetwork<br>
and exchange traffic. In order for such internetworks<br>
to work they need to be allocated unique IP addresses.<br>
The prerequisite for receiving globally unique IP<br>
addresses is that you have to be using IP technology<br>
and have a need to internetwork with other networks.<br>
There are several such IP internetworks that are<br>
entirely separate from the public (big I) Internet.<br>
That's where the other addresses are used and their<br>
usage is growing at about the same rate as Internet<br>
usage is growing.</blockquote><br>
While I do not necessarily disagree with this point of view (as I
work<br>
for a company who uses allocated space in such a manner), others may<br>
argue that addresses that are assigned through the Internet Assigned<br>
Numbers Authority (that's Internet with the "I") are meant for
Internet,<br>
with an "I," use. As it says at the top of their web page,
"Dedicated<br>
to preserving the central coordinating functions of the global
Internet<br>
for the public good." Note, "global Internet."<br><br>
ObOnSubject: Of course, getting PI space for non-global Internet use<br>
is one of the big problems with current IPv6 allocation policy that<br>
make it difficult to start building private IPv6 networks now.<br>
-- <br>
Crist J.
Clark
crist.clark@globalstar.com<br>
Globalstar
Communications
(408) 933-4387<br>
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James R. Cutler<br>
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