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Re: Regulatory intervention

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Erik Haagsman)
Fri Oct 7 13:43:30 2005

From: Erik Haagsman <erik@we-dare.net>
Reply-To: erik@we-dare.net
To: Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org>
Cc: Ross Hosman <rosshosman@yahoo.com>, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.63.0510071330001.4052@jvc>
Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:25:54 +0200
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 13:32 -0400, Todd Vierling wrote:
> On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, Erik Haagsman wrote:
> > Ahhh....they feel they shouldn't sensor, and there I was thinking that
> > was Google's task in life. Very generous and what a great idea for new
> > laws that firmly put the blame on anyone but Google.
> 
> That wasn't my reason for citing it.  Neither Google *nor* intermediaries
> should be responsible for illegal content -- to them, it's just bits moving.
> 
> The only responsibility that *either* one should bear is the ability to
> provide an audit trail to the real culprit, no more.

Correct. Holding a dial-up ISP responsible for content on one of it's
customer's machines (or perhaps even a warez server on the other side of
the globe?) is complete nonsense. Having them provide forensic info is
another (more sensible) matter.

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Erik Haagsman
Network Architect
We Dare BV
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