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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Oct 6 23:43:29 2005

In-Reply-To: <20051007003239.GV1013@burnout.tpb.net>
Cc: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 23:42:50 -0400
To: nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Oct 6, 2005, at 8:32 PM, Niels Bakker wrote:

> * deepak@ai.net (Deepak Jain) [Fri 07 Oct 2005, 02:29 CEST]:
>
>> I think Cogent's offer of providing free transit to all single  
>> homed Level3 customers is particularly clever and being  
>> underpublicized. I wouldn't be surprised if Cogent is in more  
>> buildings than Level3 with a high degree of overlap with the  
>> entire Level3 lit network. That could be a very nasty "competitor"  
>> to force into your customers awareness by your own action (or  
>> inaction) -- especially if your customer is single homed to you  
>> and realizes now that isn't enough of the "Internet" for them.
>
> I guess a significant part of the single-homed networks behind Level 
> (3) would be in PA space owned by them, and thus will find the  
> initial step towards multihoming very hard to take (renumbering  
> into PI or their own PA space).

Renumber why?

If they have a /24, all they need is an AS & a BGP capable router.

If they don't have a /24 or larger, then they will either need to  
renumber, or NAT, or some other fun magic.  But the upper bound on  
the difficult of such exercises is exactly equal to changing providers.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick

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