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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pete Templin)
Wed Oct 5 17:23:51 2005

Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:57:54 -0500
From: Pete Templin <petelists@templin.org>
To: "Justin M. Streiner" <streiner@cluebyfour.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0510051537430.6354@whammy.cluebyfour.org>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Justin M. Streiner wrote:

> Remember that when backbones peer with each other, they typically (and 
> as normally dictated by peering policies on both sides) only announce 
> their own routes and the routes of their downstream customers and agree 
> not to announce a default route to each other.  They do not announce a 
> full routing table to each other.  Upshot: When provider X de-peers 
> provider Y, single-homed customers of either provider will likely have 
> problems reaching single-homed sites of the other.

That assumes that both are transit-free networks.  We've already heard 
that Cogent buys some form of fill-in transit from Verio, perhaps for a 
subset of {AOL/ATDN, Sprint, others}.  Assuming such, why aren't routes 
appearing in L3's routers with paths matching _2914_174_?  L3 might be 
filtering them out (automatically or manually; perhaps filters haven't 
auto-generated yet), or Cogent might be requesting that they be filtered 
(Verio's community structure allows this quite easily).  Conversely, why 
aren't routes appearing in Cogent's routers with paths matching 
_2914_3356_?  If Cogent is buying transit from Verio, they should be 
receiving a full table.

Anyone have any inside connections to expose the truth(s) here?

pt

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