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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Tancsa)
Wed Oct 5 15:50:44 2005

Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:12:49 -0400
To: Douglas Dever <dougdever@gmail.com>
From: Mike Tancsa <mike@sentex.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <67e188f60510051147r56c95823rf99227daab9bfbd@mail.gmail.com
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Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


At 02:47 PM 05/10/2005, Douglas Dever wrote:

> > fact remains that Cogent is not providing the service I'm paying them
> > for and they need to get it fixed.
>
>Really?  As you already pointed out, your packets are reaching their
>destination.  So, they don't "need" to get anything "fixed."

I think what people are upset about is that you now have less 
redundancy now if you are a cogent transit customer.  If I tell my 
customers, "I have 3 full transit links", I now have to put an * 
there.   If my 2 non cogent links go down, I dont have a full 
visibility of the Internet. I see everything, except Level3.  It 
becomes more acute if you have just 2 transit links-- Cogent and one 
other.  What if your other provider has a lossy path to Level 3 
?  You cant work around it by preferencing 174 3356

         ---Mike 


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