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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jeff Shultz)
Wed Oct 5 15:44:58 2005

Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:22:25 -0700
From: Jeff Shultz <jeffshultz@wvi.com>
To: John Payne <john@sackheads.org>
Cc: NANOG list <nanog@nanog.org>
In-Reply-To: <d632e99f315f6b104bf133c791a3dfef@sackheads.org>
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John Payne wrote:

> 
> If nobody filtered BGP at all (in or out), you would have the state you 
> are expecting.  However, you would have both a capacity problem, and an 
> economic failure, as you may well end up with cogent trying to send all 
> (much) of it's level3 destined traffic through a customer's connection 
> with much smaller pipes... or overloading it's connectivity to one of 
> its other peers.  The economic failure comes because now you're 
> expecting a third party to transit packets between cogent and level3 
> without being paid for it (and some of those connections are metered).
> 

Okay. I always figured that the difference between peering and transit 
was that you paid for one and not the other. I had no idea that when you 
bought transit from someone, you weren't automatically buying transit to 
_all_ of that providers other connections.

Interesting. Balkanization of the Internet anyone? As one other 
commenter hinted at, it does sound like a recipe for encouraging 
multi-homing, even at the lowest levels. How many ASN's can the system 
handle currently?

-- 
Jeff Shultz

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