[85125] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Crocker)
Wed Oct 5 15:17:42 2005
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From: Matthew Crocker <matthew@crocker.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 15:02:41 -0400
To: Douglas Dever <dougdever@gmail.com>
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On Oct 5, 2005, at 2:47 PM, Douglas Dever wrote:
> On 10/5/05, Matthew Crocker <matthew@crocker.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> They did, and I'm not down. I see Level 3 via Sprint and GNAPs/CENT
>> just fine. I didn't lose any connectivity to Level 3 at all. Bits
>> moving down different pipes, not a big deal to me technically. The
>>
>
> So, where's the problem, exactly?
Um, I only have 2 routes to Level 3 when I should have 3 routes and
I'm paying for 3 routes...
>
>
>> fact remains that Cogent is not providing the service I'm paying them
>> for and they need to get it fixed.
>>
>
> Really? As you already pointed out, your packets are reaching their
> destination. So, they don't "need" to get anything "fixed."
Ok, I *pay* Cogent for 'Direct Internet Access' which is IP Transit
service. I *cannot* get to part of the internet via Cogent right
now. I also *pay* Sprint and GNAPS for 'Direct Internet Access' and
I can get to all parts of the internet via their networks. I *used*
to be triple redundant to *all* of the Internet but now I only have
*two* connections to Level 3. My packets are reaching their
destination because I'm smart enough to be multi-homed, that doesn't
remove the responsibility of Cogent to do what I *pay them to do*.
Cogent is *not* providing complete Internet access, I really don't
care who's fault it is.
> What utter nonsense...
>
> *shakes head and walks away*
Is it really that hard to understand?
As a paying Cogent customer I expect to be able to get to the
Internet through them. Isn't that the business they are in?
> -doug
>
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