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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James Spenceley)
Wed Oct 5 14:49:20 2005

In-Reply-To: <Pine.NEB.4.63.0510051331490.26258@server.duh.org>
From: James Spenceley <james@iroute.org>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 21:08:26 +0300
To: Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org>, nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu



On 05/10/2005, at 8:41 PM, Todd Vierling wrote:
> "Isn't BGP supposed to work around this sort of thing?"

Ok, I'll state the obvious first ....

BGP is a routing protocol, the economics of its implementation bears  
no resemblance to implied or otherwise connectivity.

> This comes down to a little more than just "depeering" -- at least  
> in the
> BGP sense.  There's active route filtering going on as well if  
> connectivity
> is dead; after all, I can bet the house that at least one of Cogent's
> network edge peers has connectivity to Level3, and vice versa.

That would assume that cogent is paying someone to transit their  
routes to L3. Which I can deduce is not the case.

> What nature of clause?  I consider deliberately filtering prefixes  
> or origin
> ASs to be a violation of common backbone BGP use.

I'm not familiar with the concept of a 'common backbone BGP use  
policy". The best analogy I can think of is ....

"A commodity appears at first sight an extremely obvious, trivial  
thing. But its analysis brings out that it is a very strange thing,  
abounding in metaphysical subtleties and theological niceties."
  -- Karl Marx.


> -- Todd Vierling <tv@duh.org> <tv@pobox.com> <todd@vierling.name>

--
James



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