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Re: Cogent/Level 3 depeering

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Crocker)
Wed Oct 5 13:13:23 2005

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From: Matthew Crocker <matthew@crocker.com>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 13:13:00 -0400
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>> I opened a billing/support ticket with Cogent.   I'm not planning  
>> on paying my bill or continuing the contract if they cannot  
>> provide full BGP tables and full Internet transport (barring  
>> outages).   Luckily I have 2 other providers so I can still reach  
>> Level 3.
>>
>
> I'm curious where in your contract you think Cogent guaranteed you  
> connectivity to Level 3?

My original contract was with NTT/Verio which Cogent purchased last  
year when Verio nuked their Boston POP.   I'm having the contract dug  
out of the archives to look at what it says.  IMHO  I pay Cogent for  
Transit to the whole Internet,  If I wanted partial transit or local  
peering I would order/contract and pay for that.   Cogent is not  
currently providing me full transit service.  I really don't care who  
pulled the plug, it is Cogents job to fix it for me as I am their  
customer.


> Most transit contracts only guarantee packet delivery to the edge  
> of their own networks.  I'm pretty sure Cogent is doing that.   
> (Hell, they have lots of spare capacity now. :)

Most also have a clause to cover the inter-AS links, making sure that  
they are not overloaded.
>> Maybe I can buy the new 'Cogent - it is almost the Internet'  
>> service for less money.
>>
>
> Maybe.  Would you pay L3 for "almost the Internet" as well?


Yes, if the price were right.

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Matthew S. Crocker
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