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Re: Turkey has switched Root-Servers

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Thu Sep 29 17:01:02 2005

To: Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>
Cc: Tony Hain <alh-ietf@tndh.net>,
	"'Stephen Sprunk'" <stephen@sprunk.org>, peter@peter-dambier.de,
	"'North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes'" <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:26:59 PDT."
             <8E1D4150-4D27-4D5F-BB77-A8CAE64B0C6C@tony.li> 
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 16:59:59 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:26:59 PDT, Tony Li said:

> Are there national exceptions to international law?  Seems to me that  
> if no exceptions are permitted, then everyone is treated equally.

This is discussed in passing in RFC3675.  In particular, the third paragraph
paragraph of section 3:

   Saudi Arabia, Iran, Northern Nigeria, and China are not likely to
   have the same liberal views as, say, the Netherlands or Denmark.
   Saudi Arabia and China, like some other nations, extensively filter
   their Internet connection and have created government agencies to
   protect their society from web sites that officials view as immoral.

If everybody is treated equally, then if one of those countries objects
to a site, then you can't visit it *either*, even if your country feels
the site is acceptable.  So, for instance, you couldn't visit the link
http://aclu.org/pizza (a real URL about a real problem), because there's
at least one government that wishes that URL would go away.  Two, if you
count the Chinese, who probably don't want their people knowing what rights
people in other countries have...

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