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Re: [afnog] ARIN to allocate from 74/8 & 75/8

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Randy Bush)
Tue Sep 20 23:04:10 2005

From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 17:01:10 -1000
To: "Steven M. Bellovin" <smb@cs.columbia.edu>
Cc: Todd Underwood <todd@renesys.com>, nanog@merit.edu
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


>> this has probably already been thought-out, but outbound reachability
>> testing *from* the address block to a representative spread of
>> addressing makes much more sense and would be much more indicative of
>> forwarding (versus routing) problems, and would do so with some method
>> and statistical reliability.  presumably that is coming and just
>> hasn't been discussed or carried out yet.
> It's a good idea, but of course that requires someone in the allocated 
> block to have a list of addresses to ping, all over the net.  

as i said privately to someone, a few problems
  o the scale of destinations is far to large.
  o how are you to know what is an important host inside of a
    complex enterprise?  the granularity of routing/filtering
    within sites is not externally visible.
  o many of a large complex enterprise's sources from which it may
    be desirable to test may be in 1918 space.
  o the pingees may not like being pinged.

the goal here was for isps and enterprises who want to be good
citizens to be able to test.

randy


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