[84694] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: router worms and International Infrastructure
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Sep 20 18:36:22 2005
To: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
Cc: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>,
Florian Weimer <fw@deneb.enyo.de>, nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:17:25 +0200."
<43309885.20504@linuxbox.org>
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2005 18:34:38 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
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On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 01:17:25 +0200, Gadi Evron said:
> And that's something I will drink to every day. What has happened with
> it since?
Exactly.
> > a) I'll be collecting a pension and not really caring before it happens.
> >
> > b) We have a curious patchwork of laws foisted upon us, from various state,
> > province, and country governments.
> >
> > In either case, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for something workable
> > to show up - that's a long time to spend being an odd shade of blue....
>
> There are solutions that don't have to be based on legislation. I don't
> have all the answers but acknowledging the problems is something that
> should be done.
See likely outcome (a). Keep in mind that the problem isn't the providers that
already do altruistic things like BCP38, actually reading their abuse@ mailbox,
and dealing with zombied users.
Said solution will have to deal effectively with the problematic providers. And
quite frankly, if they haven't gotten the ROI message regarding cleaning house *yet*,
they're unlikely to do it unless "Do it or go to jail/other penalties" happens.
To stem the usual flood of tired suggestions, I'd recommend *not* following up
with "If we all did XYZ" unless you have in fact gotten at least one problem
provider (whom you were *not* employed by at the time) to implement XYZ.
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