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Re: ARIN is not/is too/is not/is too... blah.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Gaddis)
Sun Mar 30 11:43:42 1997

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 1997 10:38:24 -0600
From: mikeg@savvis.com (Mike Gaddis)
Reply-To: mikeg@savvis.com
To: Dirk Harms-Merbitz <dirk@power.net>
CC: babylon@mokushi.psybernet.com, nanog@merit.edu

Dirk Harms-Merbitz wrote:

  I agree, there is a need for long-haul providers. But they also
  don't have
  to be that big. 20-30 people companies with an annual gross of, say
  10
  million, would probably do it. All they need is a T3/OC3/OC12 nation
  wide
  mesh which is expensive, but not that expensive. Plus peering
  arangements.

  Try selling a third T3 to a local ISP with 100 T1 clients and two
  T3s to
  larger networks. The local ISP will most likely talk about pricing
  plus
  how hop-counts can be reduced for his customers. Pricing being the
  more
  important factor at this point.

  Dirk

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Dirk,

You are showing a lack of knowledge about the real costs of long haul
networking.  Economies of scale do not even begin to come into play
until the revenue
hits $50 million or so given the need for a network that is not sparsely
connected or
under provisoned in the backbone.  This is the reality.  There is a
definitive place for the "big boys"
as transit aggregators of bandwidth.  Without them our collective costs
would skyrocket.

Mike Gaddis
Savvis Communications


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