[84374] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Marshall Eubanks)
Mon Sep 12 08:43:38 2005
From: "Marshall Eubanks" <tme@multicasttech.com>
To: "Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com>,
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:42:53 -0400
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0509120504320.26672@parapet.argfrp.us.uu.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:06:36 +0000 (GMT)
"Christopher L. Morrow" <christopher.morrow@mci.com> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>
> >
> > I recall last month in our web servers was something like 8% with IPv6
> > (average), but in my opinion most of the IPv6 traffic is peer-to-peer so not
>
> 8% seems high to me as well, I don't think I've ever seen my v6 traffic
> over 1% honestly :( Why do you think it's mostly P2P traffic? Are there
> P2P applications that prefer v6 over v4? or only work on v6? If a host has
> v6 capabilities, in my experience, it'll use them atleast as often as v4
> when given the chance.
These estimates seem way high and need support. Here is a counter-example.
Netflow on Internet 2 for last week
http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/20050829/
has 6.299 Gigabytes being sent by IPv6, out of a total 383.2 Terabytes, or 0.0016%
This is backbone traffic, and would not catch intra-Campus traffic, nor would it catch
tunnel or VPN traffic, but it is suggestive.
By contrast, (IPv4) UDP is 12 % of the data sent, and (IPv4 ASM) Multicast is 1.76%, so
IPv6 trafic is just about 10^-3 of the Multicast (before any fan-out).
According to the graph
http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/longit/perc-protocols41-octets.png
the most I2 IPv6 traffic was in 2002, when it was almost 0.6% of the total.
It is hard for me to imagine that the situation for commerical US traffic is much
different.
There may be similar statistics for Geant - I would be interested to see them.
Regards
Marshall Eubanks
>
> I think the last v6 traffic study I saw still said +90% of the v6 traffic
> was still ping/traceroute :(
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