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Re: ARIN is not/is too/is not/is too... blah. (fwd)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Elise Gerich)
Sat Mar 29 15:37:21 1997

From: epg@corp.home.net (Elise Gerich)
To: nanog@merit.edu
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:34:37 -0800 (PST)

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Subject: Re: ARIN is not/is too/is not/is too... blah.
To: mpearson@games-online.com (Matthew Pearson)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 1997 12:05:40 -0800 (PST)
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Cathy,

So, does this mean that our new budget needs to include
$20K for ARIN "membership"?
     --Elise

> 
> At 11:37 AM 3/29/97 -0600, Aleph One wrote:
> >On Sat, 29 Mar 1997, David R. Conrad wrote:
> >
> >> Size    Fee             Amt of space    Per address per year fee
> >>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> Small   $2500/year      /24 - /19       $9.77 - $0.31
> >> Medium  $5000/year      >/19 - /16      $0.61 - $0.08
> >> Large   $10K/year       >/16 - /14      $0.15 - $0.04
> >> X-Large $20K/year       >/14            $0.08 -> $0.00
> >
> >   I'am I the only one that finds that the fact that the prices actually
> >*decrease* the larger the address blocks is disturbing? Not only does it
> >make entrace into the ISP market more difficult, but it allows the
> >creation of a highly profitable market for the resale of IP addresses if
> >you buy then in bulk to beging with (yeah, yeah I know about allocation
> >policies, but I seen people get large blocks easily).
> >
> 
> I feel that it is disturbing as well. Since IP addresses are supposed to
> come from a non-profit organization all prices should be equal. Why should
> US Sprint get a deal (not to single them out.. take any HUGE network
> provider) on addresses and then have ARIN stick it to smaller NSPs such as
> our own.
> 
> It makes no sense...
> 
> Not to mention you will then create 2nd level IP allocation companies. I
> could pay the bucks, misfile the paperwork and get a /14 or two and then
> resell smaller blocks for less than ARIN's prices to NSPs starving for
> address space.
> 
> Gimme a break.
> 
> Just my $.02, no flames made nor requested
> 
> 



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