[84224] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OT: Yahoo- apparently now an extension of the Chinese govt secret
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Wed Sep 7 23:28:06 2005
Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 06:27:33 +0200
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: Bob Arthurs <bob_arthurs@hotmail.com>
Cc: jsdy@center.osis.gov, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <BAY106-F2852EC69A6AA08B9D7F82B84A60@phx.gbl>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Bob Arthurs wrote:
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>
> I should add that my original statement pertains to (obviously) the
> Chinese *government* alone! I am concerned about the repression that the
> Chinese people experience, and the basic freedoms that they lack.
>
> As far as 'China hate' is concerned- this definately doesn't apply to
> me- many of my friends are from mainland China, Taiwan, and Hong Kong. I
And I am sure none of us are actually China haters or gay bashers, many
of my friends are gay, too!
> lived for many years in the area, and speak pretty passable Mandarin
> myself (was pretty fluent, but it has deteriorated a bit, I'm afraid!).
> So, love the Chinese people, their culture, and history - resent the
> Chinese government's repression (though I personally believe the Hu Jin
> Tao *may* turn out to be a great improvement on leaders such as Jiang
> Zemin, Deng Xiaoping, and obviously Mao Zedong- I hear that Hu Jin Tao
> even met Hu Yaobang's widow, and plans a commemoration in the Great Hall
> of the People!!).
Still, China is by its own right a country with its own laws. You don't
have to agree with them but that's how it is. B*ching about it here told
me nothing of operational problems anyone faces except for over-zealous
political opinions.
Want to bring the Israeli-Palestinian conflict up too?
Gadi.
