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RE: level3.net in Chicago - high packet loss?!?

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Min Qiu)
Tue Sep 6 10:50:20 2005

Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2005 10:49:55 -0400
From: "Min Qiu" <mqiu@pop2pop.com>
To: "Network Fortius" <netfortius@gmail.com>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


Stef,

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Network Fortius [mailto:netfortius@gmail.com]=20
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:25 AM
> To: nanog@merit.edu
> Subject: Re: level3.net in Chicago - high packet loss?!?
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> And how exactly would you interpret the number returned by net_loss =20
> (int), in a column called "LOSS", in reference to reachability of a =20
> "hop" between two end points:
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> int net_loss(int at)
> {
>    if ((host[at].xmit - host[at].transit) =3D=3D 0)
>      return 0;
>    /* times extra 1000 */
>    return 1000*(100 - (100.0 * host[at].returned / (host[at].xmit - =20
> host[at].transit)) );
> } ?

This piece of code is modified by me (all mistake is mine).  It=20
converts the the drop to percentage.  x 1000 was a trick to handle
none int returned by the function.  This was an issue I did not=20
have a clear answer.

Regarding to you original post.  Your trace end2end (last hop) has=20
0.0% drop proved the entire path was free of packet loss.  The drop=20
in the middle of the path could be related to ICMP rate limit or=20
other things.  Should it was a congestion in the X hop, every hop=20
after X would be impacted by it.  Thus X+1, X=3D2... has to be > 0.0%.

Hope this help,

Min


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> Thanks,
> Stef
> Network Fortius, LLC
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> On Sep 6, 2005, at 7:45 AM, Robert E.Seastrom wrote:
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> > Network Fortius <netfortius@gmail.com> writes:
> >
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> >> Anybody having any idea why such a high packet loss on lever3's
> >> network, in Chicago?
> >>
> >
> > End-user misinterpreting output from MTR.  This network does not
> > appear to have any packet loss end-to-end.
> >
> >                                         ---Rob
> >
> >
> >
> >> Stef:~ scm$ mtr -r www.yahoo.com
> >> ...
> >> tbr1-p010802.cgcil.ip.att.net             0%    16   16   15.12
> >> 24.21   49.26
> >> ggr2-p310.cgcil.ip.att.net                0%    16   16   13.18
> >> 42.66  118.99
> >> so-1-1-0.edge1.chicago1.level3.net        0%    16   16   14.48
> >> 35.84  126.48
> >> so-2-1-0.bbr1.chicago1.level3.net        63%     6   16   14.44
> >> 43.74   79.97
> >>                                                           =20
>         =20
> >> ^^^^^^^
> >> as-1-0.bbr2.sanjose1.level3.net           0%    16   16   61.95
> >> 80.64  176.01
> >> ge-10-2.ipcolo3.sanjose1.level3.net       0%    16   16   63.37
> >> 95.61  148.46
> >> unknown.level3.net                        0%    16   16   63.34
> >> 86.46  168.62
> >> unknown-66-218-82-217.yahoo.com           0%    16   16   62.09
> >> 88.91  127.58
> >> p4.www.scd.yahoo.com                      0%    16   16   64.51
> >> 89.96  183.79
> >>
> >> TIA,
> >> Stef
> >> Network Fortius, LLC
> >
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