[84099] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Tidbit from DirectNIC
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin W. Pauler)
Sun Sep 4 19:10:29 2005
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 18:09:57 -0500
From: "Justin W. Pauler" <jwpauler@gmail.com>
Reply-To: jwpauler@gmail.com
To: peter@peter-dambier.de
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <4319883E.8010207@peter-dambier.de>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
Just to reinforce, I'm a ham, and I've been working with the Louisiana
Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness since the days
before the storm, at least for some parishes, we're the only link in
or out of the area.
On 9/3/05, Peter Dambier <peter@peter-dambier.de> wrote:
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> The important thing is to let those guys play with their toys as long as =
there
> is no emergency and as long as no one believes there will ever be one.
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> Given an emergency, those guys turn into proffessionals immediately and t=
heir
> toys become valuable tools.
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> The same tools in the hand of inexperienced are worthless toys.
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> Let them erect their antennas and let them build their repeaters everywhe=
re.
> They will never harm anybody. Those grumbeling tv sets can be dealed with=
:)
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> And dont pose rules on them. Emergencies dont obey rules either
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> Peter Dambier, DL2FBA
> and Karin
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> Have a HAM for dinner :)
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> Michael Greb wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 11:54:10AM -0400, Steven Champeon wrote:
> >
> >>on Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:44:49PM +0100, Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com =
wrote:
> >>
> >>>-----snip-----
> >>>Fox News is reporting that there is an operation underway to refill
> >>>chillers at the Bell South building down the street to keep phone serv=
ice
> >>>available to much of the southeast United States. That is apparently w=
here
> >>>all the firetrucks are going to in the area, in case you were wonderin=
g.
> >>>-----snip-----
> >>>
> >>>It is interesting to note that it is possible to bring in diesel and w=
ater
> >>>to resupply BellSouth yet it is impossible to bring in water and food =
for
> >>>the residents, not to mention a fleet of small boats that could have
> >>>prevented thousands from dying trapped inside their attics.
> >>
> >>1) potable water is probably somewhat different from the water used in
> >> chillers or fire trucks
> >>
> >>2) phone service is, IMHO, one helpful pre-requisite to providing
> >> emergency care and disaster relief
> >
> >
> > Last year after Ivan phone service played no roll in emergency care or
> > disaster relief. Ham Radio operators, myself included, were stationed
> > at each shelter, the Red Cross and Salvation Army command centers, the
> > county EOC, hospitals, and some assigned to shadow important people suc=
h
> > as the mayor whereever they went. Every agency participating had a
> > presence at the county EOC. When an ambulance was needed at a shelter,
> > it was called for via ham radio, an operator at the EOC passed the mess=
age
> > to the ambulance dispatcher in the same room, they called the ambulance
> > out.
> >
> > Those in their home and not in a shelter had no way to call for help bu=
t
> > the city and county themselves did not rely on phone service for
> > anything. This is why the federal government gives so much valuable
> > radio spectrum to Ham Radio, more then any other service, the principal
> > purpose of Ham Radio is to provide emergency communications in times of
> > need.
> >
> >
> >
> >>3) the pictures I've been seeing have been full of boats, many of them
> >> thrown up on land a few hundred feet from their berths
> >>
> >>Not saying that the utter failure of DHS as an organization isn't on
> >>evidence here. Just saying that it's one thing to feed and water a plan=
t
> >>and quite another to feed and water a human being, let alone tens of
> >>thousands of them.
> >
> >
> > Michael Greb
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> --
> Peter and Karin Dambier
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