[83629] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Andre Oppermann)
Fri Aug 19 13:30:14 2005
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2005 19:29:44 +0200
From: Andre Oppermann <nanog-list@nrg4u.com>
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org, wb8foz@nrk.com
In-Reply-To: <20050819163708.26103.qmail@xuxa.iecc.com>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
John Levine wrote:
>>Face it, 7D is dead; and even if overlays had not arrived, cell
>>phones would have killed it. Once you learn to think 10D, it's
>>trivial.
>
> Oh, you ignorant rednecks.* Even my cell phone has 7D dialing and
> it'll be a century before overlays arrive where I live.
>
> The reason that it makes sense for an ISP to warn its customers about
> surprise toll calls is that toll rates have gotten so low that for the
> most part, we don't worry about them. Due to the peculiar
> telegeography in my area, a 7D call within my area code could be
> local, intra-LATA toll, or inter-LATA toll. But the most expensive of
> those is 8 cents/min so for voice calls, I don't care, and I really
Duh. I pay less for an international trans-atlantic call for premium
voice minutes in retail (US$0.04/minute). Wholesale I get the same
minute for less than 2 cents (US$). A 64kbit/s transparent ISDN call
on the same path costs 3 cents (US$). And I'm in Switzerland. So it
seems to be cheaper for me to call you than it is for you to call someone
in the next LATA.
--
Andre
