[83535] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: New N.Y. Law Targets Hidden Net LD Tolls
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Eric A. Hall)
Thu Aug 18 03:09:33 2005
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 03:07:57 -0400
From: "Eric A. Hall" <ehall@ehsco.com>
To: Richard A Steenbergen <ras@e-gerbil.net>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <20050818065900.GI8847@overlord.e-gerbil.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
On 8/18/2005 2:59 AM, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 18, 2005 at 02:44:59AM -0400, Eric A. Hall wrote:
>
>>On 8/17/2005 10:04 PM, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote:
>>
>>>A new law that's apparently the first in the nation threatens to
>>>penalize Internet service providers that fail to warn users that some
>>>dial-up numbers can ring up enormous long-distance phone bills even
>>>though they appear local.
>>
>>aka, make ISPs liable for other people's fraud. What's the thinking here,
>>anybody know?
>
> Erm... Requiring that ISPs notify customers that phone numbers in the same
> area code may not be "local" has WHAT exactly to do with making ISPs
> liable for other people's fraud?
If there's a penalty for failing to ~adequately track and notify customers
then that's a liability, by definition.
Seems to me the appropriate response is for the AG office to pursue the
people who are running the toll scams, not to push enforcement out to
uninvolved third parties. Having dealt with AGs in the past, I know that's
just whistling dixie, but still the notion of introducing liability is
kind of spooky.
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