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Re: Michael Lynn's presentation

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Gadi Evron)
Fri Aug 12 12:28:29 2005

Date: Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:27:43 +0200
From: Gadi Evron <ge@linuxbox.org>
To: "J. Oquendo" <sil@politrix.org>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.58.0508121217040.4675@kungfunix.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


J. Oquendo wrote:
> 
> www.infiltrated.net/cisco/holygrail.pdf

I find it rather funny, really.

Back in defcon, everybody was trading the presentation quietly and eagerly.

Then every kiddie started asking if anyone wants it.

Then we all got URL's to download it from.

Then there was another pass of "psst, want the Lynn presentation?"

And eventually, there was a CD placed on every table at defcon with the 
presentation.

Seeing big-time secret-handshake groups take this with a whisper and a 
"if I know you, email me and I might share it" was a bit silly.

Once again every Bad Guy in town had it and the Good Guys didn't want to 
share under different excuses, some good, some sad.

I find that sharing the presentation openly on NANOG is a bit of a bad 
move because of how some may perceive it and you, but it has become 
completely silly not to do it. So I ask that people reserve judgment.. I 
was very tempted to do it myself.

	Gadi.

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