[8278] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Domain Rant.
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Karl Denninger)
Thu Mar 20 23:42:21 1997
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 1997 22:39:13 -0600
From: Karl Denninger <karl@Mcs.Net>
To: Michael Dillon <michael@memra.com>
Cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.93.970320200030.9278M-100000@sidhe.memra.com>; from Michael Dillon on Thu, Mar 20, 1997 at 08:06:16PM -0800
On Thu, Mar 20, 1997 at 08:06:16PM -0800, Michael Dillon wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Mar 1997, Karl Denninger wrote:
>
> > > IAHC's proposal fixes the problem folks are seeing with NS today.
> >
> > No it doesn't.
> >
> > If you register with someone, pay them, and they claim never to have
> > received payment you're just as screwed. They hold or delete your
> > record and you end up paying again.
>
> My understanding is that the precise protocol used to register a new name
> has not been frozen yet. This issue can be addressed if CORE requires a
> non-repudiable transaction from a registrar in order to register a domain
> or to update its payment status.
>
> And even if the IAHC were so foolish as to not consider this possibility
> they certainly did create a Policy Oversight Committee that can change
> procedures at any time.
So what?
The registrar claims you haven't paid and didn't submit the non-repudiable
transaction (because they claim it didn't happen). You have a cancelled
check.
This is precisely the situation people are claiming is happening to them.
Again, the problem isn't payments being posted that didn't happen, its
payments made which *didn't get posted*. Non-repudiation doesn't help
this situation; that's a control on *positive* events, not ones which
people claim didn't occur.
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