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Re: Vonage Selects TCS For VoIP E911 Service

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joel Jaeggli)
Wed Jul 20 12:52:25 2005

Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 09:46:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Joel Jaeggli <joelja@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: Alex Rubenstein <alex@nac.net>
Cc: Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com, nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <Pine.WNT.4.62.0507201206230.2132@vanadium.hq.nac.net>
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


On Wed, 20 Jul 2005, Alex Rubenstein wrote:

>
>
> GPS does not work through the fuselage of a aluminum airplane.
>
> I've tried. More than once.

The gps carrier frequency is 1575.42mhz

a decent gps antenna is unfortunately a bit larger than most small gps 
recivers let alone cellphones. multipath cancelation is a serious issue 
when dealing with gps, and being in a aluminum tube mailer, under tree 
cover or inside commercial construction doesn't help your situation when 
all you have is a tiny patch antenna printed on a pcb.

>
>
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 Michael.Dillon@btradianz.com wrote:
>
>> 
>>> If a person is calling 911 from a plane in flight, are
>>> we really so concerned about which PSAP receieves the
>>> call?    The last known fix would likely have been the
>>> point of origin in any case...
>> 
>> If a picocell on board an airplane receives an E911
>> call, it shouldn't route it to any PSAP. The first
>> responders in this situation are the flight attendants
>> so it should ring the flight attendant's phone.
>> 
>> By the way, if GPS works in the air for small aircraft
>> pilots, then why wouldn't it work for cellphones? The
>> last known fix should be 100% up to date and 100% useless.
>> 
>> --Michael Dillon
>> 
>
>

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