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Re: Non-English Domain Names Likely Delayed

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Tue Jul 19 02:01:31 2005

To: Iljitsch van Beijnum <iljitsch@muada.com>
Cc: Brad Knowles <brad@stop.mail-abuse.org>, NANOG <nanog@merit.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:55:08 +0200."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:59:58 -0400
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu


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On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:55:08 +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum said:
> On 18-jul-2005, at 22:49, Brad Knowles wrote:
> > Like Verisign, the people who pay the bills are not the end-user  
> > consumers of e-mail addresses and web browsers, and many of the  
> > bill-payers are likely to be the sort of people who would want to  
> > encourage confusion.
> 
> I don't believe the major TLDs with million+ names registered are  
> short sighted enough to think it's a good idea to encourage confusion.

This would be the same TLDs that don't censure registrars with a long track
record of registering domains for known phishers and spammers and the like, right?

> >     You're a customer of an ISP.  You know nothing about how to run  
> > your own nameserver.  Just how exactly do you expect to have  
> > control over your own named.root?
> 
> Buy some books at oreilly.com?

I'd cue a Randy Bush audio clip, if only I knew that only the offender's ISP's
phone would ring.  Unfortunately, this isn't the case....

What percent of the Joe Sixpacks out there could sucessfully manage their
named.root given a copy of 'DNS for Idiots' without generating at least one
trouble ticket?

Also, what do the experiences of people who had to deal with getting themselves
out of 69/8 bogon filters or thousands of different SMTP blacklists tell us about
the wisdom of having a large number of these sorts of things sitting where
end users can mangle-and-forget?  Remember - most land mines are detonated
by civilians long after the war is over.....

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