[82129] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Alexei Roudnev)
Fri Jul 8 16:01:12 2005
From: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>
To: "David Conrad" <david.conrad@nominum.com>
Cc: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@burtongroup.com>,
"Scott McGrath" <mcgrath@fas.harvard.edu>, <nanog@merit.edu>
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 09:53:01 -0700
Errors-To: owner-nanog@merit.edu
We have relatively PI address space in IPv4, which works fine, even with
current routers. No any problem to hold the whole world-wide routing with a
future ones. Is it a pproblem keeping 500,000 routess in core routers? Of
course, it is not (it was in 1996, but it is not in 2005 and it will not be
in 2008 - even if you will have 1,000,000 routes). IPv6 schema was build to
resolve problem which do not exists anymore (with fast CPU and cheap memory
and ASIC's).
I mean - when people switched from IPv4 to IPv6, they changed too much and
too hard, trying to implement all their ideas. Result is terrible.
IPSec - compare SSH and IPSec. Compare IPSec and PPTP. No, IPSec is
extremely bad thing.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Conrad" <david.conrad@nominum.com>
To: "Alexei Roudnev" <alex@relcom.net>
Cc: "Daniel Golding" <dgolding@burtongroup.com>; "Scott McGrath"
<mcgrath@fas.harvard.edu>; <nanog@merit.edu>
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:01 AM
Subject: Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008
> On Jul 6, 2005, at 10:16 PM, Alexei Roudnev wrote:
> > IPv6 address allocation schema is terrible (who decided to use SP
> > dependent
> > spaces?),
>
> Well, to date, provider based addressing works (although there were
> times when it was a close thing). Your alternative?
>
> > security is terrible (who designed IPSec protocol?) and so so on.
>
> I wouldn't say terrible. Annoying, perhaps, but security is often
> like that. Your alternative?
>
> > Unfortunately, it can fail only if something else will be created,
> > which do
> > not looks so.
>
> The "something else" already exists, although many are unhappy about
> it. It has evolved a bit -- it's now called NUTSS (http://
> nutss.gforge.cis.cornell.edu/)... :-)
>
> Rgds,
> -drc
>
